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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 30, 2007 16:34:35 GMT -5
I think it’s nice that in the interview, JMS actually gives some good answers that help potential readers figure out what the series will be like, without giving too much away. For instance:Not that I should feel surprised; he’s been good at this sort of thing for some time. Following his comments about Babylon 5 while that series was still unfolding was a part of the pleasure.
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Post by Sentry on Apr 4, 2007 1:17:45 GMT -5
Asgard it's been far from Earth since the beginning of time,why now Thor is gonna have a problem with that?And why Oklahoma and not Norway where the Aesir have the strongest ties? The more news i hear from this series writer and more weaker became my interest for it,even if I still want to give at least a try.
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Post by BigDuke on Apr 11, 2007 8:00:01 GMT -5
I am really looking forward to seeing Thor back and will be curious to see exactly how he is interpreted. But having Asgard in Oklahoma seems pretty dumb. Now if that is the landing point for Bifrost, I could live with that. But Asgard is not terrestrial, it is and should be otherworldly.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 11, 2007 15:08:59 GMT -5
Maybe to the Marvel staff, Oklahoma IS otherworldly.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 12, 2007 12:18:37 GMT -5
At any rate, you'd think Minnesota, with its Scandinavian heritage, would make more sense as an american location...
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 12, 2007 15:35:41 GMT -5
No silly, Minnesota is where the ninjas are gonna have their new training facility
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 15, 2007 5:19:51 GMT -5
At the very least, I would say the decision to bring Asgard to Oklahoma should have a definite benefit for the neighborhood: the Tornado Alley should become more livable once Thor starts using Mjolnir to neutralize any tornados coming Asgard's way...
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 16, 2007 14:31:12 GMT -5
Personally, I'd like to see Thor kicking the Sentry's asgard from one end of the galaxy to the other... Just as much as I would like to see Hercules (the real one) return & give a sound trashing to that unworthy upstart, Ares...
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Post by Sentry on Apr 19, 2007 1:11:37 GMT -5
I'm really curios about what is going to happen when Thor discover the fact that Richards has made a clone of him or the strange behavior of Stark and the death of Captain America,hope that at last this things are gonna treat seriously.
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Post by Tana Nile on Apr 19, 2007 10:30:09 GMT -5
I'm really curios about what is going to happen when Thor discover the fact that Richards has made a clone of him or the strange behavior of Stark and the death of Captain America,hope that at last this things are gonna treat seriously. if this Thor is anything like the old Thor, I would expect some righteous fury at a duplicate of himself being used to fight and kill other heroes. I also would expect to see him deeply saddened by what has transpired in his absence, particularly Cap's death and the reasons for it. I have some faith in Straczynski to get this right. Note I said,"some", not "complete" !
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Post by balok on Apr 19, 2007 11:24:44 GMT -5
if this Thor is anything like the old Thor, I would expect some righteous fury at a duplicate of himself being used to fight and kill other heroes. "It appears that Mr. Stark, Mr. Richards, and Mr. Pym all suffered blunt force trauma. The weapon was rectangular and extremely heavy, and moving at very rapid speed. See these wound patterns? They indicate chamfered edges on the impact part of the weapon. Interestingly, we recovered no fragments from the wounds, suggesting a material both hard and extremely durable." for those who need it!
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 19, 2007 14:28:41 GMT -5
See, I think is is WILDLY exgaerated by anti-reggers again.
I can't imagine Thor being HORRIFIED at finding out a cyborg was made of him, even if it did kill someone. I'd imagine the real Thor's reaction to be more, "d**n, I wasn't here when they needed me most and look what happened! They tore each other apart and Cap died! This shows how much I'm needed, if I'd been here maybe I could have ended this... Hell/Hel, they even built a cyborg of me!"
I think anyone who thinks he'd go "RAA! THEY MADE A CLONE OF ME! HOW DARE THEY, THE BLASPHEMERS! BETTER GO KILL THEM ALL!" is simply enormously biased and hoping for some wish fulfillment. Would he be annoyed at the duplicate? Sure. But FURY? No way.
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Post by balok on Apr 19, 2007 15:05:53 GMT -5
Well, if you want it, here's my serious opinion:
I think Thor would be very disappointed in Tony and Hank, good friends once, for being a party to this. I think he'd be less angry at Reed, because when friends do something you don't like it's worse, and Reed was at best an acquaintance.
I think Thor would demand the destruction of Clor, and that if the creators refused him, I think he'd track it down and destroy it himself. I think he'd want an apology from the three men involved, and I think his trust in them would be diminished by this act. I think, given time and that he's a hero, he might come to trust them again. I also think, given that he's a hero, that he won't take action against them.
I'll finish with a question for interested readers: how would YOU feel if some scientist friends of yours created a clone of you do pursue their agenda? Would that be okay with you? Or would you be upset? Would you seek its destruction, or not?
I would feel betrayed. I would demand the destruction of the mechanism, and I would never again have anything to do with the creators of it.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 19, 2007 15:08:42 GMT -5
See, I think is is WILDLY exgaerated by anti-reggers again. I can't imagine Thor being HORRIFIED at finding out a cyborg was made of him, even if it did kill someone. I'd imagine the real Thor's reaction to be more, "d**n, I wasn't here when they needed me most and look what happened! They tore each other apart and Cap died! This shows how much I'm needed, if I'd been here maybe I could have ended this... Hell/Hel, they even built a cyborg of me!" I think anyone who thinks he'd go "RAA! THEY MADE A CLONE OF ME! HOW DARE THEY, THE BLASPHEMERS! BETTER GO KILL THEM ALL!" is simply enormously biased and hoping for some wish fulfillment. Would he be annoyed at the duplicate? Sure. But FURY? No way. I gotts disagree with you here Doom. one thing you see from the beginning of the Avengers series is Thor has a hangup about his godhood. He also gets really defensive anytime some character claims godhood. He takes deity issues very seriously, this is even a large enough weakness that others have used it effectively against him in the past. Thor will definitely not take it lightly that they cloned him and used the clone for their own ends. He would not take it lightly if they cloned any god. It might not come under an uncontrollable fury, but there will almost definitelt be a righteous and godly wrath, couplet with some devine retribution.
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Post by Sentry on Apr 19, 2007 15:12:47 GMT -5
Maybe you are right Doom,wrath is the reaction that we fans would like it,but a god is god and cloning him is a little bit of blasphemy,and so i still think that the more realistic reaction to the events of Civil War is rage ,remember what happen when Thor in Avengers thinks that Cap was dead?What is going to happen when he discover that this time is for real,and the cause are the action of his former friends?
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Post by Sentry on Apr 19, 2007 15:16:21 GMT -5
Personally, I'd like to see Thor kicking the Sentry's asgard from one end of the galaxy to the other... What do you mean?
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 19, 2007 15:36:43 GMT -5
Pretty sure he meant the character as opposed to the forummer, friend
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 19, 2007 15:52:43 GMT -5
Pretty sure he meant the character as opposed to the forummer, friend Ah, Doom...! By now you know me so well...!!!
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 19, 2007 16:00:35 GMT -5
For better or worse, eh old friend?
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 19, 2007 19:44:02 GMT -5
now who sounds like they know each other too well Bong? Hmmmmmm?
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 19, 2007 19:44:39 GMT -5
Bong and Doom sittin' in a tree S-M-I-T-I-N-G
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Post by balok on Apr 19, 2007 20:27:15 GMT -5
Bong and Doom sittin' in a tree S-M-I-T-I-N-G >Tweeeeeet!< Flag on the play! Unsportsman like conduct: taunting! Fifteen post penalty, automatic... first down!
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 19, 2007 20:34:37 GMT -5
and I didn't even get to do my end-zone dance.
meanwhile I am re-inforcing my walls awaiting the return of Doom
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Post by Tana Nile on Apr 20, 2007 0:29:07 GMT -5
See, I think is is WILDLY exgaerated by anti-reggers again. Really, is there anything any of us "anti-reggers" could say that you wouldn't claim is wildly exaggerated? He's the Viking God of Thunder! He's not a human being. As a god, his emotions tend to play out on a much larger stage than a human's. We have seen this time and again. Note I said he would feel fury; I did not say he would kill anyone, that was your interpretation (and interesting that you would assume such). Since Thor is heroic (or at least was), I can't see him harming his former friends, but as Balok says, I can see him feeling betrayed and very angry, enough that he might not have anything to do with them, certainly for a long time. Of course he would feel distressed at what has transpired to set friend against friend; but knowing that his name and image was used to harm and even kill one of those friends would make it impossible for him to trust these folks for a very long time. In my opinion, of course.
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Post by Alchemist-X on Apr 20, 2007 2:48:53 GMT -5
See, I think is is WILDLY exgaerated by anti-reggers again. Really, is there anything any of us "anti-reggers" could say that you wouldn't claim is wildly exaggerated? He's the Viking God of Thunder! He's not a human being. As a god, his emotions tend to play out on a much larger stage than a human's. We have seen this time and again. Note I said he would feel fury; I did not say he would kill anyone, that was your interpretation (and interesting that you would assume such). Since Thor is heroic (or at least was), I can't see him harming his former friends, but as Balok says, I can see him feeling betrayed and very angry, enough that he might not have anything to do with them, certainly for a long time. Of course he would feel distressed at what has transpired to set friend against friend; but knowing that his name and image was used to harm and even kill one of those friends would make it impossible for him to trust these folks for a very long time. In my opinion, of course. I would be very appaled if it didn't play out like that, Its the only reaction Thor could have for such a situation
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 20, 2007 5:10:20 GMT -5
See, I think is is WILDLY exgaerated by anti-reggers again. Really, is there anything any of us "anti-reggers" could say that you wouldn't claim is wildly exaggerated? He's the Viking God of Thunder! He's not a human being. As a god, his emotions tend to play out on a much larger stage than a human's. We have seen this time and again. Note I said he would feel fury; I did not say he would kill anyone, that was your interpretation (and interesting that you would assume such). Since Thor is heroic (or at least was), I can't see him harming his former friends, but as Balok says, I can see him feeling betrayed and very angry, enough that he might not have anything to do with them, certainly for a long time. Of course he would feel distressed at what has transpired to set friend against friend; but knowing that his name and image was used to harm and even kill one of those friends would make it impossible for him to trust these folks for a very long time. In my opinion, of course. But remember, Tana: it's a WILDLY exaggerated opinion, at that...
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Post by Tana Nile on Apr 20, 2007 11:25:40 GMT -5
Really, is there anything any of us "anti-reggers" could say that you wouldn't claim is wildly exaggerated? He's the Viking God of Thunder! He's not a human being. As a god, his emotions tend to play out on a much larger stage than a human's. We have seen this time and again. Note I said he would feel fury; I did not say he would kill anyone, that was your interpretation (and interesting that you would assume such). Since Thor is heroic (or at least was), I can't see him harming his former friends, but as Balok says, I can see him feeling betrayed and very angry, enough that he might not have anything to do with them, certainly for a long time. Of course he would feel distressed at what has transpired to set friend against friend; but knowing that his name and image was used to harm and even kill one of those friends would make it impossible for him to trust these folks for a very long time. In my opinion, of course. But remember, Tana: it's a WILDLY exaggerated opinion, at that... Oh don't you know it Bong. I mean, since I'm all Anti-Reg and stuff, I certainly couldn't be capable of rational thought on this matter.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 26, 2007 0:11:38 GMT -5
Lets not forget that, in the past, Thor has been subject once in a while to berserker warrior rages...
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 26, 2007 21:11:08 GMT -5
Oh don't you know it Bong. I mean, since I'm all Anti-Reg and stuff, I certainly couldn't be capable of rational thought on this matter. don't forget also, being a woman goes against you in the kingdom of Latveria as well.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 27, 2007 12:00:22 GMT -5
Nonsense, Doom has viewed two women higher than any men Doom has ever met.
In any case, I have seen absolutely nothing that implies Doom would return and go on a killing spree against his old friends. Let us not forget, as so many often do, that Thor also has a deep friendship with Iron Man as well as Cap. Hje'd certainly give Iron Man the chance to explain himself and I think he'd be satisfied, if not exactly happy, with the reply.
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