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Post by defdave on Apr 1, 2008 13:55:16 GMT -5
Does anybody else see a similarity between the look of the Hulk in the new movie and Michael Turner's version?  --DW |
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Post by Tana Nile on Jun 14, 2008 22:28:29 GMT -5
I saw "The Incredible Hulk" today, and thoroughly enjoyed it! I wouldn't say it was quite as good as "Iron Man", but still a very fun movie, with lots of great comic book stuff for us fans.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Jun 15, 2008 4:24:31 GMT -5
I saw "The Incredible Hulk" today, and thoroughly enjoyed it! I wouldn't say it was quite as good as "Iron Man", but still a very fun movie, with lots of great comic book stuff for us fans. Absolutely agreed- it beat my expectations and was really, really enjoyable. I'd even venture to say the final battle beat Iron Man's and was of comic book proportions, even if the rest of the film didn't quite measure up to it. It certainly washed away the bad taste of the last Hulk film anyway! Oh, and the comic fan shout-outs! So very, very many of them, for us Avengers fans in particular. From Doctor Reinstein and the mention of a "Super Soldier" during WW2 to that ENDING which gave me shivers... |
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Post by spiderwasp on Jun 15, 2008 22:08:52 GMT -5
Count me in. I saw it this afternoon. Not only was it leaps and bounds better than the first movie (Of course you didn't have to be the Hulk to jump that far) but it was actually very entertaining. As has been said in other post, the comic references were great. I like being rewarded for years of comic reading by knowing a few things or understanding a few gags that the general public might not get. Furthermore, this served to make me even more excited about the forthcoming Avengers movie. I love that it is getting so much promotion three whole years before it comes out. I can hardly wait to see Sentry hit the big screen! (JK- I hope)
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jun 15, 2008 22:22:29 GMT -5
Let's hope BMB doesn't write the Avengers movie, then...! ;D(joke too, I hope as well...)  |
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Post by spiderwasp on Jun 15, 2008 23:19:59 GMT -5
Let's hope BMB doesn't write the Avengers movie, then...! ;D(joke too, I hope as well...) Actually, if he does, it may turn out that Sentry has appeared in all the Marvel movies thus far and we just don't remember it. I think he was played by Ozzy Osborne but Ozzy doesn't remember it either. ;D
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Post by woodside on Jun 16, 2008 0:06:08 GMT -5
Let's hope BMB doesn't write the Avengers movie, then...! ;D(joke too, I hope as well...) Actually, if he does, it may turn out that Sentry has appeared in all the Marvel movies thus far and we just don't remember it. I think he was played by Ozzy Osborne but Ozzy doesn't remember it either. ;D BMB wrote that snippet at the end of "Iron Man." I don't really think it would be that bad if he did. His style might translate well into movies. That being said, I'd rather have someone else . . . I saw it tonight (along with Iron Man again -- my brother hadn't seen it) and while "Incredible" was better than it's predecessor (which I liked), it certainly wasn't the best Marvel movie. It lacked in certain areas and the story was meandering at times. However, it was a lot of fun. And I loved it when Hulk roars "HULK SMASH!" SPOILERS! Stark's appearance was great, but there was more to it than that. Did anyone else see the Stark Industries logo as well as Nick Fury's name on the documents in the very beginning? Plus, all the SHIELD talk . . . And the super-soldier reference. There was also the "Weapon Plus" label. I kept looking for other Easter Eggs, but couldn't really find many other than the ones we've mentioned. Maybe upon another viewing. |
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Post by Shiryu on Jun 16, 2008 3:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by Doctor Doom on Jun 16, 2008 6:56:26 GMT -5
And perhaps the best part...? Wolverine and Spider-Man are owned by other companies and cannot be put into Avengers.  No but seriously, I could go for either an "Ultimates"-style one (In terms of basic story and plot- the characters from the individual movies should all be 616!) or a more traditional one. Clearly, some stuff is going Ultimateverse- SHIELD recruiting them, Fury, etc. Honestly though, I think Bendis could write a decent Avengers film. His writing is much more suited to TV or movies than comics, I think. Oh, and I saw that link before, Shiryu. Kinda has me cursing to some extent but I'm glad we didn't get another seventy minutes. Cap woulda been cool, but a bit unnecessary. At one point, the university they fought in was going to be Empire, and the director wanted to see Peter Parker in the background, but Sony refused. |
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Post by goldenfist on Jun 16, 2008 13:14:30 GMT -5
It made 54.5 Million at the box office, Worldwide it made 85.5 Milli
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Post by starfoxxx on Aug 7, 2008 17:51:22 GMT -5
Man, I'm glad I waited until this was playing in my local $3 theatre (and I snuck in my own beverage) because this was pretty dissappointing. Why can't they get the Hulk right? Just do a straightforward Banner-saves-RickJones-from-gamma-bomb origin, then get on with the battling. Not as talky as Ang Lee's but pretty bad.
A few quick gripes... Wasn't Emil Blonsky introduced as a Russian...what's up with the British accent??
Liv tyler is super hot....but she looked like she just got punched in the face thru most of the movie, and also seemed short of breath... Jennifer Connelly played the Betty character much better, IMO.
A bit too many injections for me.
the battles were great, and the chase scene in the beginning was cool, but Banner being such a bad-a** was pretty hard to believe, for me. Were there any jokes, I don't remember??
I rank it above Ghost rider, Elektra and Daredevil, below the F.F.'s, and nowhere near as good as Spidey 1 and 2, or all X-men's, and Iron Man beats them ALL.
I prefer the early 80's Hulk cartoon or the Bill Bixby TV series.
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Post by goldenfist on Nov 24, 2008 17:17:43 GMT -5
I wonder if Rick Jones will ever get in the next Hulk movie.
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Post by garada on May 16, 2009 21:42:19 GMT -5
I quite liked this Hulk film, not quite as well as the much-maligned Ang Lee film, but it was an action-packed blast. I liked it better than Ghost Rider, which I liked better than both FF films.
Yes, Iron Man is probably my favorite Marvel film [followed closely by X2 and Spidey 2], but Hulk has had 2 excellent films IMHO. My least favorites are probably Daredevil [and the even more awful Elektra] and the last Punisher [which was kinda blah despite all the 'ol ultra-violence'].
Wolverine was also kinda bleh, but I'm really looking forward to IM2, Thor and Cap, plus hopefully another Hulk and Avengers.
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Post by thunderstrike78 on Oct 12, 2009 13:12:40 GMT -5
Okay, so I finally watched The Incredible Hulk over the weekend, and I have some mixed feelings on it.
On the one hand, I did enjoy it. It had some "wow" moments, and I thought the relationship between Bruce and Betty was very well-developed and truthful.
On the other hand, movie-makers continue to have a basic misunderstanding of the Hulk (in my opinion) and how to make him appealing to a mass audience. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of the Hulk, myself, and I've never been a regular reader of this comics, but it seems to me that Marvel and the various movies keep wanting to cast the Hulk as a hero, as a sympathetic quasi-superhero. He's not.
Hulk's first movie, his establishing story, should treat him as THE VILLIAN. Let's face it, folks: he's not a super-hero. He's a monster. He's a gigantic, green engine of destruction. He's fueled by anger and hatred. He's something to be feared. He's Godzilla was a touch of the Frankenstein monster.
Bruce, on the other hand, should be very sympathetic. He's Dr. Jekyl to Hulk's Mr. Hyde. He should be portrayed as having a temper just below the surface, even before his Gamma accident, and his character arc throughout the movie should be learning that he needs to control that volatile aspect of his personality because his anger can get a lot of people killed.
And that brings us to the impact of the Hulk. He's weapon of mass destruction that movie-makers seem reluctant to unleash. He should knock down a lot of buildings in his first movie. He should cause a lot of property damage. He should probably even kill a lot of people.
The climax of the movie should center around finding a cure for Bruce's condition. The police and the army fight him. Nothing can stop him except that last-minute cure. The movie should end with Bruce being locked up for everyone else's protection.
The SECOND movie is where we can get into the idea of bringing him back to fight even bigger and badder monsters, kind of like how Godzilla ended up becoming a Japanese hero once they learned how to use him against Mothra and Mecha-Godzilla and so forth.
I really think that Marvel and the movie-makers are doing themselves a disservice by trying to make him too much of a hero right out of the gate. First, scare the %$#@ out of us. THEN rehabilitate him. I think you'll get a MUCH better film out of it.
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Post by humanbelly on Oct 14, 2009 11:43:39 GMT -5
Okay, so I finally watched The Incredible Hulk over the weekend, and I have some mixed feelings on it. On the one hand, I did enjoy it. It had some "wow" moments, and I thought the relationship between Bruce and Betty was very well-developed and truthful. On the other hand, movie-makers continue to have a basic misunderstanding of the Hulk (in my opinion) and how to make him appealing to a mass audience. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of the Hulk, myself, and I've never been a regular reader of this comics, but it seems to me that Marvel and the various movies keep wanting to cast the Hulk as a hero, as a sympathetic quasi-superhero. He's not. Hulk's first movie, his establishing story, should treat him as THE VILLIAN. Let's face it, folks: he's not a super-hero. He's a monster. He's a gigantic, green engine of destruction. He's fueled by anger and hatred. He's something to be feared. He's Godzilla was a touch of the Frankenstein monster. Bruce, on the other hand, should be very sympathetic. He's Dr. Jekyl to Hulk's Mr. Hyde. He should be portrayed as having a temper just below the surface, even before his Gamma accident, and his character arc throughout the movie should be learning that he needs to control that volatile aspect of his personality because his anger can get a lot of people killed. And that brings us to the impact of the Hulk. He's weapon of mass destruction that movie-makers seem reluctant to unleash. He should knock down a lot of buildings in his first movie. He should cause a lot of property damage. He should probably even kill a lot of people. The climax of the movie should center around finding a cure for Bruce's condition. The police and the army fight him. Nothing can stop him except that last-minute cure. The movie should end with Bruce being locked up for everyone else's protection. The SECOND movie is where we can get into the idea of bringing him back to fight even bigger and badder monsters, kind of like how Godzilla ended up becoming a Japanese hero once they learned how to use him against Mothra and Mecha-Godzilla and so forth. I really think that Marvel and the movie-makers are doing themselves a disservice by trying to make him too much of a hero right out of the gate. First, scare the %$#@ out of us. THEN rehabilitate him. I think you'll get a MUCH better film out of it. Oh, now, see-- you're gonna get me all "rushin' in to save the day" about my ol', beloved pal, Greenskin. First of all, I do agree that there hasn't ever been an entirely successful on-screen treatment of him, be it television or film. I, in fact, HATED the TV show- which none of my pals could believe. "Man, you are all ABOUT the Hulk! How could you not like the show??" And it's because, at the core of it, the show and the films have made what is, to me, the same mistake: thinking that the driving protagonist of the story should be "The Incredible Dr. Banner"-- treating the Hulk himself like an affliction or a condition, rather than as a three-dimensional character. For years and years and years- decades, even-- perhaps as early as the end of the Tales to Astonish run through, cripes, issue 300 (where the Hulk became a ferocious, mindless beast) he was indeed a sympathetic creature. Sometimes written better than at others, yes-- but to my mind he resembled no one more than poor, doomed Lenny from Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men". Now, a much more powerful and dangerous Lenny, w/out the mitigating quality of endless patience, no doubt. And a Lenny with a worse temper, who was scarred by the attacks and betrayals of those who would use or destroy him, yes. But that quality of wanting to not be hounded, not be attacked, of wanting a simple, quiet life and the company of some trusted friends was the aspect of his character that never failed to endear him to me. And THAT is the character I would love to see explored on-screen that doesn't seem to even be on the radar for the film-makers. He's been effectively mute, for crying out loud, in every iteration they've come up with. I don't know-- Stan's take on him was "Jekyll & Hyde" from the outset, but that relationship's far too simplistic, and it obviously evolved past that almost by the end of the first six issues. Oops- gotta get back to work--- Say, did I ever get around to making a proper point--? Good heavens-- HB |
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Post by thunderstrike78 on Oct 14, 2009 13:51:50 GMT -5
HB, I think you've got a much deeper understanding of the Hulk than I do, and I think all of those aspects are absolutely worth exploring. He should absolutely end up as a sympathetic creature--just not in the first movie. See, I tend to think in arcs (probably a result of watching too much Babylon 5 as a kid, but I digress), so when I talk about the FIRST Hulk movie, I'm anticipating at least two more after that. All of your suggested character work would fit in very nicely in later movies--first you establish him as a scary, bad-ass monster, and then you soften him later and develop him further. In fact, if it were me, after reading your post, I would want to DELIBERATELY treat him like a two-dimensional monster in the first film so that I could have a moment in the second film where some character (off the top of my head, perhaps an Amadeus Cho-type character) points out that everyone is treating him like a monster and that perhaps there is more to him than that. I'd want to present the audience with one idea about the Hulk and then turn that on its ear in the second movie. HB, you and I should get together and make a movie.  |
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Post by scottharris on Oct 14, 2009 14:39:41 GMT -5
I think I just got here in time! thunderstrike is wavering. Don't do it, Jason! Stay fast!
I think your original comment was right on. For me personally, the only way the Hulk is interesting is if he is used as a villain -- or rather, as an antagonist since he's not really evil. But as a foil for heroes to fight against, Hulk is at his best.
HOLD THE LINE!
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Post by humanbelly on Oct 14, 2009 19:35:09 GMT -5
I think I just got here in time! thunderstrike is wavering. Don't do it, Jason! Stay fast! I think your original comment was right on. For me personally, the only way the Hulk is interesting is if he is used as a villain -- or rather, as an antagonist since he's not really evil. But as a foil for heroes to fight against, Hulk is at his best. HOLD THE LINE! Scott, Scott, Scott-- you must let gooooooo offfffff these negativvvvvvvvve feeeeeeeeeelings, Scott. Come to the Dark Side, Scott. Come, Scott, join usssssss. Be one of us. Surrender. Scott- I am your father. . . (cue sound of deep respirator-thingy). . . *sigh* Man, ya just stomp all over a poor old fan's deep emotional connection to his most beloved character. How. . . how do you sleep at night? Oh, the angst-- Ha! 'Fraid you'll never get me to yield on this score-- and I'm likely to essay us all to death before you can pull my soapbox out from under me! (All in good fun, natch-!) HB |
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