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Post by Doctor Doom on May 1, 2007 12:58:03 GMT -5
uk.comics.ign.com/articles/784/784635p1.htmlSo let's see -Sharon may not be at SHIELD any longer, no surprises. It's interesting to see how Brubaker writes Director Stark. No-one but Bendis has yet indulged in his silly "DIRECTOR IN DECK!" Shtick, please don't let that change. It boggles the mind how, after a civil war of Cap vs Iron Man, the CAPTAIN AMERICA WRITER is writing among the most sympathetic Tonys (that much is evident after one page) but whatever. Though most of my sympathy lies with Sharon, I really do feel for Tony as well. But the major thing... Cap's body has reverted back to his natural age. A very... interesting idea, I want to see it developed.
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 1, 2007 14:34:13 GMT -5
Either that or the integrity of the clone is beginning to break down.
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Post by balok on May 1, 2007 21:04:18 GMT -5
Well, "Director on Deck" may not be that silly - SHIELD is a quasi-military organization and often on Naval ships when the captain or an admiral appears someone will announce him like that.
Nice, Stark referring to his supposed friend of decades as a specimen. While that may be what he is, now, that usage suggests an almost sociopathic detachment from any kind of emotional connection to others.
It's not surprising that Sharon left SHIELD - little else she could do under that circumstance. She's either guilty, or convinced she is, and her course is likely to be the same in both circumstances.
I suppose the aged body is supposed to convince us that Cap is really dead - and he is. Right up until someone retcons him alive again...
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 2, 2007 10:37:28 GMT -5
Oh come on Balok, the piece makes quite clear that "specimen" is Stark's particular way of dealing with it. You really going to argue that this portrays him more unsympathetically than oh, say, Avengers? Either book? Which is better, clearly saying "specimeN" while trying to stop breaking down and dealing with it by not referring to him by name, being on the edge emotionally... or saying "Rogers" offhand. I'd say the former.
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 2, 2007 20:29:25 GMT -5
I think they say specimen intentionally. I still say it isn't steves body.
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Post by Tana Nile on May 2, 2007 22:18:00 GMT -5
I'm really unclear as to why his body would "revert" like this. I thought the Super Soldier serum had altered his genome. I could see this happening if it was a drug he had to take regularly in order to get his powers (ala Miraclo) but this doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by scribbler357 on May 3, 2007 0:09:55 GMT -5
I think they say specimen intentionally. I still say it isn't steves body. I agree. The writer has already shown that he doesn't use references just to be using them. "Specimen" is probably a very significant reference.
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 3, 2007 11:52:46 GMT -5
I'm really unclear as to why his body would "revert" like this. I thought the Super Soldier serum had altered his genome. I could see this happening if it was a drug he had to take regularly in order to get his powers (ala Miraclo) but this doesn't make sense to me. This is why I'm still thinking clone.
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Post by balok on May 4, 2007 13:58:34 GMT -5
I'm really unclear as to why his body would "revert" like this. I thought the Super Soldier serum had altered his genome. I could see this happening if it was a drug he had to take regularly in order to get his powers (ala Miraclo) but this doesn't make sense to me. True, but, then, most comic book science doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Even when the attempt is made to ground these things in reality, the writer may not know or fully understand the current theory. Consider how many scientific liberties they take in any given episode of "CSI."
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Post by balok on May 4, 2007 13:59:49 GMT -5
Oh come on Balok, the piece makes quite clear that "specimen" is Stark's particular way of dealing with it. You really going to argue that this portrays him more unsympathetically than oh, say, Avengers? Either book? Which is better, clearly saying "specimeN" while trying to stop breaking down and dealing with it by not referring to him by name, being on the edge emotionally... or saying "Rogers" offhand. I'd say the former. Your contention is that his use of "specimen" is a coping mechanism? I don't think Tony liked Steve that much, especially at the end, to care that he died. YMMV.
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Post by Black Knight on May 4, 2007 14:07:51 GMT -5
I'm really unclear as to why his body would "revert" like this. I thought the Super Soldier serum had altered his genome. I could see this happening if it was a drug he had to take regularly in order to get his powers (ala Miraclo) but this doesn't make sense to me. This is why I'm still thinking clone. I have to agree, I think that Brubaker is setting up how he plans on have Cap return. Lets all think about this, Skull, got something from Doom, hired Fautus, and Zola. Ok Doom- to me says Magic... Zola - Says cloning. Fautus - says mental recondition or torture. You all figure it out from there.
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Post by Tana Nile on May 7, 2007 17:39:17 GMT -5
I'm really unclear as to why his body would "revert" like this. I thought the Super Soldier serum had altered his genome. I could see this happening if it was a drug he had to take regularly in order to get his powers (ala Miraclo) but this doesn't make sense to me. True, but, then, most comic book science doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Even when the attempt is made to ground these things in reality, the writer may not know or fully understand the current theory. Consider how many scientific liberties they take in any given episode of "CSI." Ah yes, "CSI" - that wretched show has all my friends and family asking me such amusing questions as, "Is your lab lit with green and yellow lights too?" Ugh. Normally I can suppress my reason to enjoy comics, but every so often - such as the case with Cap -I really think the writers could try a little harder.
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