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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 7, 2007 17:00:16 GMT -5
Several folks have stated on various thread that they are dropping this title and that title.
So how many of you have altered your spending habits here.
For me, I'm letting go of Cable and Deadpool, I thought it would be fun, but the whole Cable/savior thing gets a little old.
Also taking a good long look at dropping the New Avengers. We joke about the whole ninja thing, but the title is seeming a little creatively stagnant. Hope I turn out wrong.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 7, 2007 17:24:35 GMT -5
I dropped Sensational Spider-Man because it was mediocre at best. I nearly dropped NA but 27 and 28 have kept me on temporarily at least.
...I'm on the fence about Ms marvel. Technically I haven't STARTED yet but I bought the CW tie-ins and am buying the Initative ones and may or may not keep it on post-Initative. I very well may if it keeps up to the quality and unbias of 13 and 14.
If Omega Flight goes ongoing I'm not sure whether I'll keep it.
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Post by thew40 on Apr 7, 2007 17:49:20 GMT -5
On a typical basis, I give a book about three storyarcs and/or one year to really hook me in. This has been my policy for about 6 years and it hasn't failed me yet.
I figure the first arc is always the roughest for a new title/creator, simply because it's the first time writing the characters and their world. Second arc, they're broken in and the story should be stronger. By the time the third arc comes around, the writer/artist/whathaveyou should have everything straightened out as far as how they want the title to go.
That being said . . .
I dropped "New Excalibur" after it's first arc for financial reseasons. That, and outside of Sage and Juggernaut, I'm just not a huge fan of the characters.
I recently dropped "X-Factor" because as good as it was, I just wasn't getting a whole lot out of it. Financial reasons also played a role in this decision.
Finally, I dropped "New X-Men" because of my distaste with the current direction. My favorite characters were either flat-out killed or kicked to the curb. The continunity was terrible. I'll probably pick up the trades here and there and see if it got any better, but otherwise . . . it's done for.
~W~
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Post by balok on Apr 7, 2007 18:54:26 GMT -5
I dropped all Marvel titles following T-Bolts #111 and Cap #25, except for Spider-Man, which I expect to drop when JMS leaves. They included Punisher, T-Bolts (except for the unreadable Fightbolts period), Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, New Avengers (a few issues ago) Astonishing X-Men (I liked Joss' writing in the early going, but the second Ord story was boring me), X-Men and assorted specials. I came back for Avengers: The Initiative #1 but will not return for #2 of that series.
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Post by thew40 on Apr 7, 2007 21:11:36 GMT -5
Astonishing X-Men (I liked Joss' writing in the early going, but the second Ord story was boring me) I'm a big fan of Whedon's intial 12 issue run, but this second batch is going nowhere fast. The Hellfire story was sadly predictable and boring. The Ord story is slightly better, but just not going anywhere. Unfortunately, the X-Men as a whole have entered a state of malase. I'm a huge X-Fan and while each book has it's merits, they're all quite boring right now. X-Men has great characterization, but the threats are lame. Uncanny X-Men are . . . still in space. Astonishing has some nice character moments, but they're lost in a see of slow-moving plot points. But here's hoping "Endangers Species" will be just the shot in the arm the X-Men need! ~W~
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 8, 2007 4:56:28 GMT -5
I have dropped, for the foreseeable future, each & every one of the Marvel books I used to read.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 8, 2007 7:09:35 GMT -5
I have dropped, for the foreseeable future, each & every one of the Marvel books I used to read. maybe if you were more careful how you held them, sorry, posting too early in the morning.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Apr 8, 2007 12:00:25 GMT -5
Let’s see. In the last several months: - New Avengers. Need I really give a reason? Well, I like Nutcase’s “creatively stagnant”. Moreover, I often find the comic boring. I could give other reasons, but those should be good enough.
- Sensational Spider-Man. Like Doom, I found the comic mediocre. My decision was partly influenced by writer Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa’s work elsewhere (4 and Nightcrawler). Ironically, I thought my last issue, #28, was actually pretty darn good. But I decided it was probably an anomaly, and I didn’t return.
- Civil War. My last issue was #4—I would have stopped with #3 if #4 weren’t already on order via my friendly neighborhood comic shop. I was disappointed with the writing (particularly characterization, but I also found the pacing dull at times), and I was also irritated with the delays, not only of the series itself, but of core titles like ASM and FF.
- Ms. Marvel. I stuck with the series through the first several issues, right up through the end of its official Civil War tie-ins. I dropped it because I felt the comic gave a weak sense of its main character. I did pick up the most recent issue, mostly because of the return of Arachne. I don’t know that I’ll return.
- Exterminators (Vertigo/DC). This was never on my pull list, but I picked it up consistently for over a year. It had a quirky concept, but I decided that I didn’t know enough of what it’s really about (its creative raison d’être) to want to keep following it—or maybe I knew all there was to know, and I just found it insufficient.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Apr 8, 2007 19:23:09 GMT -5
Oh, yeah! I also dropped Thunderbolts—maybe it slipped my mind because it seems to have turned into an entirely different series. And that goes toward the reason: I did not care for the new direction or style.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 9, 2007 4:17:29 GMT -5
Before CW, I was reading Iron Man, the (New) Avengers, the Spider-Man titles, Thunderbolts, Exiles, Fantastic Four, She-Hulk, Hulk, and many one-shots & limited series, but after CW and what I've seen coming in its wake I refuse to give my money to Quesada's Marvel...
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 9, 2007 5:58:46 GMT -5
Night Phantom- May I suggest, if you arenm't on some sort of vendetta against Marvel like so many, Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man? It's written by old hat Peter David and is the msot "classic" Spider-book, with a fairly big supporting cast including Betty Brant, Flash Thompson, Deb Whitman etc, as well as classic villains- in the last few arcs we've had Sandman, Vulture and Mysterio. Some wierd magic and alternat universe concepts in there but it's MUCH better than Sensational.
ua2- May I be so bold as to make an alternate suggestrion? Rather than swear off marvel, why not... buy books you enjoy? I'm guessing you like classic books like She-Hulk, Exiles, maybe a few of the Spider-titles- Hell, maybe even Fantastic Four with the excellent McDuffie at the helm. You know what most of these books have in common? They're lighter themed, and they're written by classic writers.
If Marvel lose your business on every book, it doesn't send a message, not really- or if it does, there's no way of interpreting it's "I don't like your new civil war stuff", it could be "I don't like comics anymore", "I have no money", "I like DC better", etc, etc. But if you buy the books you like, and there are many more like minded people, it sends a message- it tells Marvel that THESE are the books you like, these books far away from crossovers, these classic books in the olden style.
If everyone who agreed with you dropped Marvel, it doesn't tell Marvel to drop the crossovers, it doesn't tell them anything.
If everyone who agreed with you dropped the books in "Nu" style and bought oldschool books, it sends a strong message about what you want.
Just my two cents.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 9, 2007 6:10:00 GMT -5
Well, here goes nothing: you sir... have a point...!!! I'll think about it...
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 9, 2007 6:13:47 GMT -5
This makes the third time in about 2 days you have, at least in some minor way, agreed or admitted I might have a point. Don't you need to start some sort of self-flagellating ritual or something?
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 9, 2007 6:23:40 GMT -5
Nah, I'll just hit my bell helmet with my ball glove a dozen times or so...!!!
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 9, 2007 16:15:41 GMT -5
I dropped NA and never started on MA (I had actually asked that it be held, but my comics guy is kind of a dope and didn't pull one for me, so I just never bothered to ask him to reorder).
So, my meager pull list remains:
Ultimate FF Supergirl and the Legion Ultimates 2 (yeah, whenever that finishes up...) Detective Comics (whenever Don Kramer does the pencilling) Back Issue magazine
And then I usually find one of two things off the shelf that I'll pick up just to check out.
Is anyone reading the Ultimates/Supreme Power crossover? With Greg Land art, it's beautiful; not sure about the story. I'll pick up the trade if recommended.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 9, 2007 17:10:38 GMT -5
Ultimate Power has the pacings of a slower-than-average Bendis book with the excitement of reading Avengers 500 for the 45th time.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Apr 9, 2007 17:28:05 GMT -5
Night Phantom- May I suggest, if you arenm't on some sort of vendetta against Marvel like so many, Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man? It's written by old hat Peter David and is the msot "classic" Spider-book, with a fairly big supporting cast including Betty Brant, Flash Thompson, Deb Whitman etc, as well as classic villains- in the last few arcs we've had Sandman, Vulture and Mysterio. Some wierd magic and alternat universe concepts in there but it's MUCH better than Sensational. I had to get to the part about Friendly being better than Sensational to be certain you were suggesting reading Friendly, instead of suggesting dropping it in accordance with the theme of this thread! I’ve been reading FNSM, but I’ve not been greatly enthusiastic about it. I like the fact that Spidey is shown to have a supporting cast beyond MJ and May and the occasional JJJ appearance. Overall I like the tone—well, since it got past its awkward start with “The Other”. And I do like the fact that David actually tries to follow up on dangling plot elements from that “major”, “life-changing” crossover which is otherwise forgotten. On the other hand, I’m a little annoyed by the convoluted time-travel and multiple-Mysterio stories. For now, it’s remaining on the pull list, but it’s under watch.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 9, 2007 17:33:05 GMT -5
Ah, just checking, I suspected it was more your sort than Sensational. Personally I loved the Mysterio stories but that's 100% because I love the character. Which in turn is 80% because of the costume He's like Moon Knight- the costume is so awesome the character could be Howard the Duck and he'd still retain a degree of coolness
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 11, 2007 16:36:44 GMT -5
after reading NA 29 I'll be deciding whether or not I'll be saving some money here.
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Post by Tana Nile on Apr 11, 2007 19:16:44 GMT -5
I decided to drop Wonder Woman today. As much as I want to support female characters, the book is just a mess. It amazes me how DC has dropped the ball after Crisis. Of their Big Three (Superman, Batman, WW), Superman and WW have had delays and abrupt storyline changes. WW has really been hurt by this. I'll keep checking to see if it improves, but right now, it's off the list.
I also don't think I'll get any more issues of Marvel Zombies/Army of Darkness. As much as I love Ash and Bruce Campbell, the book just isn't funny. The Marvel zombies thing has also gotten old, IMHO. The best thing about the whole deal has been the covers.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 12, 2007 9:36:36 GMT -5
One Year Later has ruined the DCU. Look at their February sales- I wanted OYL to flop to reflect the poor quality and send a message but their February sales are just sad. Pathetic really. It caused me to drop most every DC book as well. THe new JLA makes every Bendis issue look crammed and action-packed, one Superman is the worst writing I've ever seen from Kurt Busiek the other is out as often as the Ultimates, one Batman is Grant Morrison's typical poor quality and the other is average at best... the list goes on and on
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Post by redstatecap on Apr 12, 2007 11:21:43 GMT -5
I've never been an extensive comic buyer. My interests have always been Captain America, the Avengers (with Captain America), and the occasional other title with Cap/Avengers guesting. so my ability to punish Marvel financially is somewhat limited. I dropped Captain America after #9 because of the resurrection of Bucky. I won't buy the title again until the story is refuted, which may be never. Oh well. I dropped NA after #15 due to overall poor quality and reasons which have been gone over a thousand times here. I would've quit after #13, but I stuck around to see Frank Cho draw two of my favorite characters, Cap and Ms. Marvel. I've kept an eye on the book and nothing has changed (or will) so I will not be picking New Avengers up while Bendis is on the title. In addition, Marvel could have had my business on a couple of other titles but failed to "close the deal." Both New Invaders and Ms. Marvel piqued my interest on general principles. New Invaders was absolutely horrid, therefore I never picked it up. Ms. Marvel, while certainly not horrid, it at best mediocre. Aside from the reasons I've already dropped titles, I'm going to decline to purchase Marvel product of any kind for at least as long as Quesada and Co. are running the show. I believe in voting with my wallet, and I'm voting against the direction they're taking Marvel.
RSC
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 18, 2007 20:49:39 GMT -5
I posted this already in another thread, but I want to throw it in here as well.
I'm dropping the Mighty. There may be a story in there but they seem to be dedicated to smutting it up so as to obscure the fact that they are dragging it out. It's funny that they have Simon telling someone to watch their language in the same book where we see Ultrons a$$. Cute A$$ but not needed in this book.
byebye Mighty
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 18, 2007 21:02:24 GMT -5
I posted this already in another thread, but I want to throw it in here as well. I'm dropping the Mighty. There may be a story in there but they seem to be dedicated to smutting it up so as to obscure the fact that they are dragging it out. It's funny that they have Simon telling someone to watch their language in the same book where we see Ultrons a$$. Cute A$$ but not needed in this book. byebye Mighty But... I'm still not clear on something, Nutcase: is it Ultron's a$$ or Tony's...
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 18, 2007 21:03:28 GMT -5
Tony is still squirreled awa somewhere. It's Ultronettes.
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Post by redstatecap on Apr 18, 2007 23:39:39 GMT -5
I like "Girltron" myself.
RSC
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Post by balok on Apr 19, 2007 10:11:29 GMT -5
Girltron. That's nice. I think that needs to join Clor in the ranks of names that fans won't let go, and that irritate at least one Marvel editor (Tom Brevoort doesn't like Clor as a character name - I'll say it again, Tom: if you don't want to be mocked, don't create mockworthy concepts!
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Post by Tana Nile on Apr 19, 2007 13:08:57 GMT -5
next we'll have Dr. Doom as a cross-dresser in a mini-skirt - hey, wait a minute, he already wears a skirt! Wow, all these years, I never realized what Doom's kink was!
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 19, 2007 14:24:37 GMT -5
No, I'm pretty sure Doom's kink is Boris. What do you think he keeps the old man around for?
Er...
...Not that I would know...
And Balok, you seem to be overreacting somehwat. I don't think Tom Brevoort agonizes at night over the name Clor, it's more something he thinks is a silly idea and commented on it. I doubt it greatly irritates him or he would go out telling everyone to stop using it, Gell he doesn't like the term 616 either. You say "don't create mockworthy concepts!" ass though he greatly cares or as though it's a victory for those who do not like Marvel...
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Post by rosecarver on Apr 24, 2007 11:24:02 GMT -5
As stated in another thread, after a near complete collection of most things Avengers-team related, I just dropped New Avengers. I stuck with the newbie Avengers as long as I could, but just couldn't handle it any longer. And I never even started Mighty. Or any Initiative shtuff. I'm sort of torn about that decision too. Did I drop/not start them because I was trying to make a statement? Should I have given the new titles a chance? The effects of Civil War just burned me so bad. The whole Cap versus Iron Head sort of made for an interesting plot, but I don't like how it ended. And I can't think of any way it could have been resolved in a "happy" manner that wouldn't degrade the story either. Therefore, I'm torn. A friend even gave me his copies of some of the titles, but I haven't been able to bring myself to read them yet. Would I be a traitor by reading them, or should I bite the bullet and give it a shot? I guess I'll wind up reading them. Maybe now with more of an open mind. We'll see how that turns out. I've also dropped T'bolts. It has been an interesting ride, minus that horrendous Fight Club crap. I did get the first issue of the SHIELD led team, and didn't like it. So, g'bye. Ant Man started out as a decent read; nothing outstanding, but worth reading. It has now lost my interest and is in the drop pile also. On the DC side, I was only getting a few titles, and have dropped JLA. The restart was a semi-interesting read, but a bit too slow fer me.
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